Kalkriese - demonstrated Gotham String
About this Communication, we are very pleased, especially because the subject is "Kalkriese - Gotham String" has a striking ambiguity - see right :-)
28/01/2007
"Dear Mr. Schoppe,
I'm in summer 2006 with friends from the U.S., which has among others also in Troy Korfmann experience gained with burial sites, often Kalkriese.
We walked in silence and wonder through the . campaign and the whole facility
Even cursory examination makes clear: This is a string of Gotham. What
us is depressed, dumbfounded, and what was discussed during the ride home to Berlin by the fact that such a thing in Germany at all possible.
My friends from archaeological institutes from Cincinnati and Harvard, have lost an illusion from the Culture and Education of Germany and almost meant they would believe the German PISA results now and understand more.
So I would encourage especially to be discouraged when you do not have a reasonable education.
MfG
Hagen Gutcke "
Monday, January 29, 2007
Friday, January 19, 2007
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First Legion Kalkriese unique!
The die plate of a sword scabbard in bronze from the upper Esch Kalkriese ( Fund No. 10 926 ) With clearly the initials "LP " as the Ritz inscription (varus Courier No. 8, Dec. 2006, p. 3 ).
ie clearly L Egio P rima - first Legion .
The findings identified in other "P" was already taken by Prof. Wiegand (see the separate post on the thinking of Professor Wiegand in this context) in connection with the First Legion. The proposed "L" now grants from any lingering doubts.
This proves that Varus could not have been in Kalkriese because the Legio I Germanica 9 AD stationed in Mainz and not involved in the Varus battle (was Marcus Junkelmann, "The legions of Augustus', p. 97, Mainz 1986 ). Legio I Germanica
This was first used by Germanicus 14-16 AD, after their transfer to the Lower Rhine between the Rhine and the Weser.
Mt Sincerely
Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
The die plate of a sword scabbard in bronze from the upper Esch Kalkriese ( Fund No. 10 926 ) With clearly the initials "LP " as the Ritz inscription (varus Courier No. 8, Dec. 2006, p. 3 ).
ie clearly L Egio P rima - first Legion .
The findings identified in other "P" was already taken by Prof. Wiegand (see the separate post on the thinking of Professor Wiegand in this context) in connection with the First Legion. The proposed "L" now grants from any lingering doubts.
This proves that Varus could not have been in Kalkriese because the Legio I Germanica 9 AD stationed in Mainz and not involved in the Varus battle (was Marcus Junkelmann, "The legions of Augustus', p. 97, Mainz 1986 ). Legio I Germanica
This was first used by Germanicus 14-16 AD, after their transfer to the Lower Rhine between the Rhine and the Weser.
Mt Sincerely
Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
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Prof. Wiegand: But first Legion!
Professor Dr. Rainer Wiegand, deputy chairman of the varus-Gesellschaft in Osnabrück eV speaks first "Kalkrieser" now also the possibility of First Legion in Kalkriese to: " Legio I Kalkriese in to a Ritz inscription on the mouth of a metal scabbard from Kalkriese, in: GA Lehmann, and R. Wiegand (Eds.), Roman presence and domination in the Germania of the Augustan period (Göttingen 20007, p. 89 ff) . What we had been properly concluded from the tank Close-inscriptions of AIUS, now finds most beautiful additional confirmation from further finds that need to be interpreted correctly held manipulative. However, it is extremely difficult to Prof. Wiegand, after the early establishment von1990/93 (along with Wilbers-Rost and Franzius) also now admit publicly what he has long been understood in principle: that the accumulation of I (Legio I) and the P (Legio Prima) Kalkrieser the findings do not mean cohort not Centurie - but Legion!
And that it also quite naturally explains the absence of Varian Legion reference is: The First Legion was in Kalkriese, but not the legions XVII, XVIII and XIX - no trace of it in spite of intensive research! So he published it in fact be highly personal contrast on page 1 and following of the "Varus-Kurier" (information for friends and supporters of the project Kalkriese, Varus battle in the Osnabrück area, Museum and Park, 12 Jg.-I/Dezember 2006) to calm his club members, or even his earlier statement: " In the fight with the Germans - I Cohors in Kalkriese " What a spiritual dislocation: must now Varus by order of the Kalkriese-Zitierkartells with the three legions XVII LEG, LEG XIIX (as the grave stone inscription Xanten) and LEG XIX (CI / 3 cohort, so on a sheet of Dangstetten) with only a first cohort (without Legion ID) and the Germanic tribes of Arminius fight.
long Wiegels is clear that the further I on a plumb line and the P (RIMA) to the mouth of a metal scabbard always mark the first legion, not the first cohort and first centuria. But Wiegels regrets: " is again called a legion cohors I, again - unfortunately - but without legion point for the relevant periods is not unusual for the notation P to prima. Instead of a point, what happened, for example, in a further Ritz inscription on a mouth plate of a sword scabbard Kalkriese in this form, there but probably the name of a legion, not a cohort served .
So there is still hope that scientific integrity against the manipulation of public opinion prevails.
Sincerely,
Univ.-Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
Professor Dr. Rainer Wiegand, deputy chairman of the varus-Gesellschaft in Osnabrück eV speaks first "Kalkrieser" now also the possibility of First Legion in Kalkriese to: " Legio I Kalkriese in to a Ritz inscription on the mouth of a metal scabbard from Kalkriese, in: GA Lehmann, and R. Wiegand (Eds.), Roman presence and domination in the Germania of the Augustan period (Göttingen 20007, p. 89 ff) . What we had been properly concluded from the tank Close-inscriptions of AIUS, now finds most beautiful additional confirmation from further finds that need to be interpreted correctly held manipulative. However, it is extremely difficult to Prof. Wiegand, after the early establishment von1990/93 (along with Wilbers-Rost and Franzius) also now admit publicly what he has long been understood in principle: that the accumulation of I (Legio I) and the P (Legio Prima) Kalkrieser the findings do not mean cohort not Centurie - but Legion!
And that it also quite naturally explains the absence of Varian Legion reference is: The First Legion was in Kalkriese, but not the legions XVII, XVIII and XIX - no trace of it in spite of intensive research! So he published it in fact be highly personal contrast on page 1 and following of the "Varus-Kurier" (information for friends and supporters of the project Kalkriese, Varus battle in the Osnabrück area, Museum and Park, 12 Jg.-I/Dezember 2006) to calm his club members, or even his earlier statement: " In the fight with the Germans - I Cohors in Kalkriese " What a spiritual dislocation: must now Varus by order of the Kalkriese-Zitierkartells with the three legions XVII LEG, LEG XIIX (as the grave stone inscription Xanten) and LEG XIX (CI / 3 cohort, so on a sheet of Dangstetten) with only a first cohort (without Legion ID) and the Germanic tribes of Arminius fight.
long Wiegels is clear that the further I on a plumb line and the P (RIMA) to the mouth of a metal scabbard always mark the first legion, not the first cohort and first centuria. But Wiegels regrets: " is again called a legion cohors I, again - unfortunately - but without legion point for the relevant periods is not unusual for the notation P to prima. Instead of a point, what happened, for example, in a further Ritz inscription on a mouth plate of a sword scabbard Kalkriese in this form, there but probably the name of a legion, not a cohort served .
So there is still hope that scientific integrity against the manipulation of public opinion prevails.
Sincerely,
Univ.-Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
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Osnabrücker "coins found
Osnabrück region
01/19/2007
A small . battle live on the radio hmd
Bramsche A battle: So much is conceded, but the Varus battle at the end was that.? Prof. Siegfried Schoppe established that Kalkriese do not qualify, "The scientific ghost train, which is to be stopped." The dispute over the legendary battle field going into the next round, and yesterday he could watch the live audience.
The "North West Radio on the road" is always in search of controversial issues and was now in the Osnabrück region find. Lars and the moderator expressed Cohrs like this: "All of Germany is set to Kalkriese All Germany NO Some scientists do not listen to inflexible to resist.?.."
Among the skeptics Heinrich Kemper, chairman of the association "Arminiusforschung", and just Schoppe. Gave in the discussion equal to the key steps: It Kalkriese concern only external funding and promoting tourism. was evidence of the battle it is not. The
but it could not give, "said Dr. Susanne Wilbers-Rost, head of the archaeological department Varus battle in the Osnabrück region. There was only a chain of evidence, and which would become 6000 with found objects such as coins and militaria, and the excavation of a wall facility ever closer. And the scientific justification, says CEO Dr. Joseph Rottmann be done, by far four meetings, a permanent evaluation and occupied with expert scientific advisory board.
But, not only is the demand by Cohrs, speak for another site as the Teutoburg forest? Since Kemper did not specify. As for the excavations, have been lip "slept," said Schoppe [Note: This came from Mr. Kemper, in our opinion is in some way, but rather unwillingly, true: Those who evaluate the coins from Lipper Land, look after for 20 years prefer to Kalkriese, lip remains are left]. That the battle had not taken place, it is convinced Rottmann given 30 finds: "Go for progress in lip Look then we can discuss further..." [Typical of us branded methodology: who can prove otherwise, may say nothing: Scientific untenable]
http://www.neue-oz.de/information/noz_print/osnabruecker_land/15655525.html?SID=1d510fe7577a57a3eda831c0d1c94aae (original message)
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Osnabrück region
01/19/2007
A small . battle live on the radio hmd
Bramsche A battle: So much is conceded, but the Varus battle at the end was that.? Prof. Siegfried Schoppe established that Kalkriese do not qualify, "The scientific ghost train, which is to be stopped." The dispute over the legendary battle field going into the next round, and yesterday he could watch the live audience.
The "North West Radio on the road" is always in search of controversial issues and was now in the Osnabrück region find. Lars and the moderator expressed Cohrs like this: "All of Germany is set to Kalkriese All Germany NO Some scientists do not listen to inflexible to resist.?.."
Among the skeptics Heinrich Kemper, chairman of the association "Arminiusforschung", and just Schoppe. Gave in the discussion equal to the key steps: It Kalkriese concern only external funding and promoting tourism. was evidence of the battle it is not. The
but it could not give, "said Dr. Susanne Wilbers-Rost, head of the archaeological department Varus battle in the Osnabrück region. There was only a chain of evidence, and which would become 6000 with found objects such as coins and militaria, and the excavation of a wall facility ever closer. And the scientific justification, says CEO Dr. Joseph Rottmann be done, by far four meetings, a permanent evaluation and occupied with expert scientific advisory board.
But, not only is the demand by Cohrs, speak for another site as the Teutoburg forest? Since Kemper did not specify. As for the excavations, have been lip "slept," said Schoppe [Note: This came from Mr. Kemper, in our opinion is in some way, but rather unwillingly, true: Those who evaluate the coins from Lipper Land, look after for 20 years prefer to Kalkriese, lip remains are left]. That the battle had not taken place, it is convinced Rottmann given 30 finds: "Go for progress in lip Look then we can discuss further..." [Typical of us branded methodology: who can prove otherwise, may say nothing: Scientific untenable]
http://www.neue-oz.de/information/noz_print/osnabruecker_land/15655525.html?SID=1d510fe7577a57a3eda831c0d1c94aae (original message)
[Notes of the blog authors in square brackets]
Wednesday, January 10, 2007
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Why in Kalkriese the laws of probability overridden?
starting point of the following considerations are the coin hoards:
first Haltern 4056
second Kalkriese-Lutter third pitcher
Kalkriese - Bar collection, Good Barenaue.
any case had initially Theodor Mommsen (derWissenschaften The location of the Varus battle, Proceedings of the Royal Academy of Berlin, Berlin, 1885 ) his assumption of the Varus battle in Kalkriese the coins from Auer Bare land supported, and the visiting today because of the continued support of the coins found their Captain Clunn Varus Battle Kalkriese hypothesis just that.
had But Lodtmann 1753 discovered the first exclusively from Bare Auer land-derived 127 silver and gold coins, the Legion identifiers II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XIII, XV, XVI, XVII and XX , that is statistically 50% (14) of the 28 Roman legions, there was the birth of Christ.
Of the three legions of Varus but there is only one back ( 33%). This seems very unlikely, if only in the local battle Varus legions involved were.
Would Asprenas 9 AD with the two Legions V and XXI in parallel to get in varus Kalkriese in trouble, then we would back up the default probability 50% (1 / 2).
critics of Kalkriese hypothesis argue that it is there at the battle of might have traded on the Pontes Longi . How about because of the probability theory? Caecina was (15 AD) with the legions I, V, XX, XXI way, here is the correlation that is expected back at the 50% (2 / 4).
What about the Angrivarierwall conjecture in Kalkriese? Germanicus was 16 in AD, with the eight legions I, II, V, XIII, XIV, XVI, XX, XXI used so that the significance of 63% (5 / 8) increases.
Thus, the probability for the Angrivarierwall in Kalkriese So far the highest and lowest for the Varus Battle. That should give pause, because in addition by militaria finds the Legion I witnessed is what the probability of Germanicus on Angrivarierwall on 75% (6 / 8) lifts as well as for the Caecina Pontes Longi on 75% (3 / 4), but because of the lower number is not so significant .
The sober World of statistics of chance speaks most strongly against the Varus battle in Kalkriese . Corroborates the assumption that the cartel Kalkriese its monopoly even in the classification and evaluation of the empirical findings at the excavation site exploited. It is high time that the Ombudsman of the DFG appointed a neutral expert who takes all previous finds again inspected. The most suitable would be a numismatist from France because there is to be expected, the greatest expertise regarding the coinage in Gaul (Lyon / Lugdunum).
Sincerely,
Univ.-Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
Tuesday, January 9, 2007
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classification of the inscription
Georgia Franzius ( The Roman finds from Kalkriese, Brampton 1993) has, under the influence of the then publicly conducted Varusschlacht campaign Kalkriese the hallmark of the bronze buckle of a chain armor of the cavalry: M. AIUS I Fabrici incorrectly translated with " Legionnaires M. Aius served in the first cohort in the centuries of Fabricius . This failure is the result of lack of translation of background knowledge and lack of knowledge of Latin and the reviewer of pressure exerted by the Academic Community, for in a battle of Varus Kalkriese riders were not allowed to even appear a I. Legion.
The correct translation is: " M. I. Aius of the Legion of Fabrizi "; of cohort and Centurie is no question, also composed of Legionnaires' is added; Fabrici (i) is not genitive plural form but also is not a totally unknown Centurienführer. but about the historically significant general and twice consul (282 and 278 BC) Gaius Fabricius Luscinus who purchased in the fighting against Pyrrhus and in the peace negotiations with Pyrrhus as censor in 275 BC eternal fame as a vir vere Romanus . For he had neither responded nor attempted bribery to threats of Pyrrhus (king of Epirus 297-272 BC), as an honest broker between the Greeks and Romans, he also rejected a poison attack Pyrrhus on from this and warned even before. was
The Fallen, the carrier of the tank clasp with the Ritz inscription on the back of M. AII I FAB I, did not belong to the factories, that is a pioneer, but he was a member (or wearing the discarded shell of a Veterans) of the First Legion : Not the cohort or Centurie was at the center, but the legion in the Roman Empire had a name. At the time of Varus, there were 28 legions, and several Legion numbers were assigned several times, so that the highest figure XXII was. In the period of the late monarchy (509 BC), however only two legions were summoned regular. The number of regular legions led by consuls in the Republic was limited to four . were at Caesars' legions of inflation ", which are all counted, not just with cognomina named, were the four consular legions I, II, III and IV depending on their designation of the consuls . It was only under Augustus were these legions to the imperial legions - all with the name of Augusta (Augusta) Germanica, Augusta, (Augusta) and Pia Fidelis (Augusta) Macedonica.
I. The Legion with the greatest tradition was called by their consuls Legio Fabricia in memory of the legendary Republican commander and Consul Luscinus Fabricius. When Augustus the Legion of the Mark Antony in the East had rescued and moved to Spain, he called them I Augusta. Because of misconduct ( M. Junkelmann, The legions of Augustus, Mainz 1986 ) was the first of its name and moved to Augusta deprived Gaul (after 19 BC). Then it was on the Rhine River and later moved to the Lower Rhine, and then ordered by surname Germanica. Because of this history, it is understandable that the members of the First is still some time and that was the Fabrizi called for the continued use of armor, of course not the punches and scoring with inscriptions or FAB Fabrici repaid.
I. The presence of the Legion of Fabrizi Kalkriese is the empirical evidence, the critics been searched in vain, was to prove the impossibility of the Varus battle in Kalkriese. The objection that but the cognomina the legions of typical characteristics, virtues, region names, deities are is through the special position of the consular legions to the time of Augustus declared that all four then rechristened in his own name (Legio Augusta). And who with the plural Fabrici statement (i) does not agree, which may also like to read LEGIO Fabrici (A) thereof.
The attempt to found the above references to verify the Varus battle in Kalkriese "convert coins" has failed them. The tank clasp is the proof of Germanicus and Caecina in Kalkriese.
Sincerely,
Univ.-Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
Georgia Franzius ( The Roman finds from Kalkriese, Brampton 1993) has, under the influence of the then publicly conducted Varusschlacht campaign Kalkriese the hallmark of the bronze buckle of a chain armor of the cavalry: M. AIUS I Fabrici incorrectly translated with " Legionnaires M. Aius served in the first cohort in the centuries of Fabricius . This failure is the result of lack of translation of background knowledge and lack of knowledge of Latin and the reviewer of pressure exerted by the Academic Community, for in a battle of Varus Kalkriese riders were not allowed to even appear a I. Legion.
The correct translation is: " M. I. Aius of the Legion of Fabrizi "; of cohort and Centurie is no question, also composed of Legionnaires' is added; Fabrici (i) is not genitive plural form but also is not a totally unknown Centurienführer. but about the historically significant general and twice consul (282 and 278 BC) Gaius Fabricius Luscinus who purchased in the fighting against Pyrrhus and in the peace negotiations with Pyrrhus as censor in 275 BC eternal fame as a vir vere Romanus . For he had neither responded nor attempted bribery to threats of Pyrrhus (king of Epirus 297-272 BC), as an honest broker between the Greeks and Romans, he also rejected a poison attack Pyrrhus on from this and warned even before. was
The Fallen, the carrier of the tank clasp with the Ritz inscription on the back of M. AII I FAB I, did not belong to the factories, that is a pioneer, but he was a member (or wearing the discarded shell of a Veterans) of the First Legion : Not the cohort or Centurie was at the center, but the legion in the Roman Empire had a name. At the time of Varus, there were 28 legions, and several Legion numbers were assigned several times, so that the highest figure XXII was. In the period of the late monarchy (509 BC), however only two legions were summoned regular. The number of regular legions led by consuls in the Republic was limited to four . were at Caesars' legions of inflation ", which are all counted, not just with cognomina named, were the four consular legions I, II, III and IV depending on their designation of the consuls . It was only under Augustus were these legions to the imperial legions - all with the name of Augusta (Augusta) Germanica, Augusta, (Augusta) and Pia Fidelis (Augusta) Macedonica.
I. The Legion with the greatest tradition was called by their consuls Legio Fabricia in memory of the legendary Republican commander and Consul Luscinus Fabricius. When Augustus the Legion of the Mark Antony in the East had rescued and moved to Spain, he called them I Augusta. Because of misconduct ( M. Junkelmann, The legions of Augustus, Mainz 1986 ) was the first of its name and moved to Augusta deprived Gaul (after 19 BC). Then it was on the Rhine River and later moved to the Lower Rhine, and then ordered by surname Germanica. Because of this history, it is understandable that the members of the First is still some time and that was the Fabrizi called for the continued use of armor, of course not the punches and scoring with inscriptions or FAB Fabrici repaid.
I. The presence of the Legion of Fabrizi Kalkriese is the empirical evidence, the critics been searched in vain, was to prove the impossibility of the Varus battle in Kalkriese. The objection that but the cognomina the legions of typical characteristics, virtues, region names, deities are is through the special position of the consular legions to the time of Augustus declared that all four then rechristened in his own name (Legio Augusta). And who with the plural Fabrici statement (i) does not agree, which may also like to read LEGIO Fabrici (A) thereof.
The attempt to found the above references to verify the Varus battle in Kalkriese "convert coins" has failed them. The tank clasp is the proof of Germanicus and Caecina in Kalkriese.
Sincerely,
Univ.-Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
Monday, January 8, 2007
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Westfalen-Blatt 29/12/2006
Kalkriese is a "million grave"
tax money wasted
Check from Ernst-Wilhelm Pape Detmold (WB).
The waste of taxpayers' money, the hamburgers University Professor Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe (62) the leaders of the nonprofit Varus battle in the country accused of Osnabrück GmbH.
All arguments militate in favor of that legendary battle took place in the Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD in the lip. The thesis that the battle was in Kalkriese in Osnabrück raged, be scientifically untenable, "said Schoppe, a professor at the University Institute of Economic Systems, Economic and theological history. This he would prove the end of January in a forthcoming book.
The extent of the use of public funds in the museum and the excavation site Kalkriese screaming for an investigation. For the Kalkriese thesis more than ten million euros had been spent. Schoppe announced a request to review the charitable interest in the company. The
Taxpayers (BdSt), National Association Niedersachsen / Bremen, believes that at the right site of the Varus Battle are, it runs the risk tap into public funds better to . In accordance with the exclamation of the Emperor Augustus in the face of defeat of the Roman legions against the Cherusci led by Arminius: "There Varus, Varus me back the legions," the Taxpayers Association calls on the Lower Saxony Minister President Christian Wulff (CDU). Christian, Christian, pass on to our Euros. "
The state government in 2006 bewilligt.Ferner for the evaluation of the battlefield finds in Kalkriese EUR 700 000 are in the state budget every year since 2004, 10 000 euros for Kalkriese. This means, according to information from BdSt spokesman Bernhard Zentgraf in the anniversary year 2009 be increased significantly. Also hoped Kalkriese on funds from the European Union.
The chairman of the association in Arminusforschung lip, Heinrich Kemper (CDU-MDL) is the sole representative of Kalkriese in question. Kemper wants the Lower large question mark to stick on the highway signs "Kalkriese site of the Varus Battle" provide .
Kalkriese is a "million grave"
tax money wasted
Check from Ernst-Wilhelm Pape Detmold (WB).
The waste of taxpayers' money, the hamburgers University Professor Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe (62) the leaders of the nonprofit Varus battle in the country accused of Osnabrück GmbH.
All arguments militate in favor of that legendary battle took place in the Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD in the lip. The thesis that the battle was in Kalkriese in Osnabrück raged, be scientifically untenable, "said Schoppe, a professor at the University Institute of Economic Systems, Economic and theological history. This he would prove the end of January in a forthcoming book.
The extent of the use of public funds in the museum and the excavation site Kalkriese screaming for an investigation. For the Kalkriese thesis more than ten million euros had been spent. Schoppe announced a request to review the charitable interest in the company. The
Taxpayers (BdSt), National Association Niedersachsen / Bremen, believes that at the right site of the Varus Battle are, it runs the risk tap into public funds better to . In accordance with the exclamation of the Emperor Augustus in the face of defeat of the Roman legions against the Cherusci led by Arminius: "There Varus, Varus me back the legions," the Taxpayers Association calls on the Lower Saxony Minister President Christian Wulff (CDU). Christian, Christian, pass on to our Euros. "
The state government in 2006 bewilligt.Ferner for the evaluation of the battlefield finds in Kalkriese EUR 700 000 are in the state budget every year since 2004, 10 000 euros for Kalkriese. This means, according to information from BdSt spokesman Bernhard Zentgraf in the anniversary year 2009 be increased significantly. Also hoped Kalkriese on funds from the European Union.
The chairman of the association in Arminusforschung lip, Heinrich Kemper (CDU-MDL) is the sole representative of Kalkriese in question. Kemper wants the Lower large question mark to stick on the highway signs "Kalkriese site of the Varus Battle" provide .
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doubt in place of the Varus Battle
Even 1997 years after the Roman general Varus by the Germans were defeated, the battle rages on the historian. This involves the question of where the armed conflict has taken place at that time - whether in the Teutoburg Forest in the lip or circle to demonstrate how recent research seem to Kalkriese close of Osnabrück. The Hamburg historian Siegfried Schoppe has once more thrown in for lip into the breach. All arguments speak for it, he said the Bielefeld Westfalen-Blatt "and announced the publication of new research results. The use of public funds for a museum and the excavation site in Kalkriese he called the other hand, a waste of taxpayers' money.
http://www.dradio.de/kulturnachrichten/200712291800/17 (original message)
doubt in place of the Varus Battle
Even 1997 years after the Roman general Varus by the Germans were defeated, the battle rages on the historian. This involves the question of where the armed conflict has taken place at that time - whether in the Teutoburg Forest in the lip or circle to demonstrate how recent research seem to Kalkriese close of Osnabrück. The Hamburg historian Siegfried Schoppe has once more thrown in for lip into the breach. All arguments speak for it, he said the Bielefeld Westfalen-Blatt "and announced the publication of new research results. The use of public funds for a museum and the excavation site in Kalkriese he called the other hand, a waste of taxpayers' money.
http://www.dradio.de/kulturnachrichten/200712291800/17 (original message)
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found the place where Varus battle?
Bielefeld - The dispute over the actual site of the Varus battle, there is increasing doubt as to Kalkriese Site of the legendary confrontation. All arguments militate in favor of that legendary battle took place in the Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD, but in Lippe said the Hamburg historian Siegfried G. Schoppe the Bielefeld Westfalen-Blatt (Friday edition). The thesis that the battle had raged in Kalkriese near Osnabrück is scientifically untenable. A corresponding proof, he would lead in a forthcoming book in late January, he adds.
same time accused the historians to the leaders of the nonprofit association Varus battle in the Osnabrück region GmbH waste of taxpayer money. The extent of the use of public funds for the museum and the dig site Kalkriese screaming for an investigation. For the Kalkriese thesis more than ten million euros had been spent. The Hamburg scientist wants to review the charitable status of the GmbH.
After the announcement of the latest scientific findings of the dispute over the actual site of the Varus battle flared up again. Especially interested in history from among lip expressed doubt that really on the excavation site at Kalkriese the remnants of the weapons program of 9 were found after Christ, were received by the three Roman legions of the Cheruscan Arminius (Hermann) annihilated. The battle has historical significance because the expansion of the Roman Empire came to this military defeat on its northern border. (Reuters)
http://www.ksta.de/html/artikel/1167386889128.shtml (original message)
found the place where Varus battle?
Bielefeld - The dispute over the actual site of the Varus battle, there is increasing doubt as to Kalkriese Site of the legendary confrontation. All arguments militate in favor of that legendary battle took place in the Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD, but in Lippe said the Hamburg historian Siegfried G. Schoppe the Bielefeld Westfalen-Blatt (Friday edition). The thesis that the battle had raged in Kalkriese near Osnabrück is scientifically untenable. A corresponding proof, he would lead in a forthcoming book in late January, he adds.
same time accused the historians to the leaders of the nonprofit association Varus battle in the Osnabrück region GmbH waste of taxpayer money. The extent of the use of public funds for the museum and the dig site Kalkriese screaming for an investigation. For the Kalkriese thesis more than ten million euros had been spent. The Hamburg scientist wants to review the charitable status of the GmbH.
After the announcement of the latest scientific findings of the dispute over the actual site of the Varus battle flared up again. Especially interested in history from among lip expressed doubt that really on the excavation site at Kalkriese the remnants of the weapons program of 9 were found after Christ, were received by the three Roman legions of the Cheruscan Arminius (Hermann) annihilated. The battle has historical significance because the expansion of the Roman Empire came to this military defeat on its northern border. (Reuters)
http://www.ksta.de/html/artikel/1167386889128.shtml (original message)
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Kalkriese methodology
What is the success of the media refuted Kalkriese hypothesis to explain - and why any criticism strikes at Kalkriese cartel from?
The reason lies in the fact that this discussion was not a priori out at the scientific level - then had the visiting no chance - advocate, but as a public discussion that serves all stereotypes, the pseudo-scientific views on agents.
The pound, grow with the visiting is the fact that not a German provincial archaeologist on site, but an officer of the British Rhine Army, which has indeed brought the democracy to Germany, the hitherto little suspicious place Kalkriese into the (final) put game: Captain, then Major, Clunn , a neutral referee, but without a scientific background, an avid leisure seekers after militaria, coins and battlefields since its deployment on Hadrian's Wall Durham. His hypothesis: Varus Battle Kalkriese he borrowed from the UK than in Germany recognized experts in Roman law, Roman history and Roman inscriptions and Nobel Laureate for Literature 1902 Theodor Mommsen, who tells of the coin finds of good Barenaue. And the prompt exploratory successes on the ground appeared to be the best way Kalkriese hypothesis to make a sound theory.
With Mommsen, who can not defend more against his one-sided receipt with questionable scientific methods, is in Kalkriese today taken the decisive authority for the Varus Battle hypothesis to complete. His exhibition at the museum there is almost like a saint worship by its believers. But witness the Varus battle he was not, and clairvoyant powers had not even Mommsen - in recognition of all his qualities. Perhaps the visiting Saints need another column to which it can be directed with their prayers, if their hypothesis collapses.
Why are the visiting despite scientifically untenable position with its critics so easily?
first Against the hypothesis Kalkriese contact vehemently the "romantics" who are in the tradition of the epic "Dreizehnlinden" by Friedrich Wilhelm Weber and steadfastly maintain that the west front and the frescoes in the monastery of Corvey were Roman works. They will thus also with respect to disavow their serious arguments on the Varus Battle.
second Many "local historian" - underutilized Pensioners, teachers and pastors - offer lively dance with the motto: "With the capture home in the heart of the world " some 700 sites of the Varus Battle, the "accidental" are always in the vicinity of their residence. It's easy to make these lay for their "limited horizons" too ridiculous.
third Search the Varus battle also feel attracted many who have sunk their roots deep into mythology, mysticism, spiritualism ... and always new stories to the Externsteine , the dolmens, think the Germanic gods and heroes can tell. Since their imagination beyond all limits, these can easily be shrugged off as dreamers, if they comment on the Varus Battle.
4th The critics who would fear the visiting most, which are serious academics , out of the race ; the financial, emotional and familial as well as career-dependencies in the narrow academic community are so entangled that not a self-cleaning process in the scientific contest expected (longer). Although the (remaining) risk that the visiting still find evidence of varus in Kalkriese to neglect objective, for a scientist, but who had publicly attacked the Kalkriese cartel would the personal disaster.
5th Highly motivated opponents of the Kalkrieser "Lippe-Detmold" are. They are losing tourists, the right to the anniversary celebration at the end of 2009 and even still you Hermanns Monument. This Lipper arguments as economically motivated , unscientific and backwoods - just out of the Lippe Forest - dismiss , they also accused of petty parochialism and national narrow-mindedness, definitely Germano, as in the Empire and the Principality of Lippe-Detmold, is cheap. That the same arguments for the district of Osnabrück country or Hannovereaner apply, is back behind it.
6th Behind the cover of their Leaves, behind which it should always put a critical head hidden, leading to responsible editors, world and Handelsblatt in front, directing the public opinion management . Since she originally the visiting with the prospect of quick money and big fame to entice you to leave the set on Kalkriese - the media led the unsuspecting, but publicity-conscious Provincial archeologists like a dancing bear at the nose ring around - take them regularly and indiscriminately party. Critical reviews and letters to be suppressed: the stage is reserved for the visiting performer.
7th "Scribe", the dare to be noted that all sources are in stark contrast to Niewedder Valley and the local findings to be dismissed as text positivists. You have no criticism, because they stick far too good faith to the often distorted texts. You should only prove once an empirically more suitable habitat for the Varus Battle. However, the so-Checked the opposite question is not: " How, then, if not from old sources, the visiting even know of a Varus Battle ?
8th The Varus Battle in Lippi's forest to try to situate science contradicts the opinion formation process in a democracy. The Hermann Monument in the ring wall of the castle was Grote of the Bavarian subject of E. Bandel in the time of national movement started and continued under the Prussian king and German emperor and complete: National (ist) and imperial (ist) at the same time the monument is untenable. Has embraced the German public also so grateful she is for the historically unencumbered offer of a Varus battle in Kalkriese that is given her by a carrier of the Royal Order of Commander of the British Empire, citizens of democratic Urnation, .
For scientific questions one normally expects a scientific argument, but here it is obvious an exceptional issue that calls for a balanced socio-political and politically correct answer.
The Kalkrieser have ensured that the so-called public opinion as to decide "democratic", where the honest imperialists is to put a monument Varus. The museum (sgelände) Varus battle Kalkriese "is the socio-politically necessary counterweight to national (ist) Memorial Hermann the German Empire .
Sincerely,
Univ.-Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
What is the success of the media refuted Kalkriese hypothesis to explain - and why any criticism strikes at Kalkriese cartel from?
The reason lies in the fact that this discussion was not a priori out at the scientific level - then had the visiting no chance - advocate, but as a public discussion that serves all stereotypes, the pseudo-scientific views on agents.
The pound, grow with the visiting is the fact that not a German provincial archaeologist on site, but an officer of the British Rhine Army, which has indeed brought the democracy to Germany, the hitherto little suspicious place Kalkriese into the (final) put game: Captain, then Major, Clunn , a neutral referee, but without a scientific background, an avid leisure seekers after militaria, coins and battlefields since its deployment on Hadrian's Wall Durham. His hypothesis: Varus Battle Kalkriese he borrowed from the UK than in Germany recognized experts in Roman law, Roman history and Roman inscriptions and Nobel Laureate for Literature 1902 Theodor Mommsen, who tells of the coin finds of good Barenaue. And the prompt exploratory successes on the ground appeared to be the best way Kalkriese hypothesis to make a sound theory.
With Mommsen, who can not defend more against his one-sided receipt with questionable scientific methods, is in Kalkriese today taken the decisive authority for the Varus Battle hypothesis to complete. His exhibition at the museum there is almost like a saint worship by its believers. But witness the Varus battle he was not, and clairvoyant powers had not even Mommsen - in recognition of all his qualities. Perhaps the visiting Saints need another column to which it can be directed with their prayers, if their hypothesis collapses.
Why are the visiting despite scientifically untenable position with its critics so easily?
first Against the hypothesis Kalkriese contact vehemently the "romantics" who are in the tradition of the epic "Dreizehnlinden" by Friedrich Wilhelm Weber and steadfastly maintain that the west front and the frescoes in the monastery of Corvey were Roman works. They will thus also with respect to disavow their serious arguments on the Varus Battle.
second Many "local historian" - underutilized Pensioners, teachers and pastors - offer lively dance with the motto: "With the capture home in the heart of the world " some 700 sites of the Varus Battle, the "accidental" are always in the vicinity of their residence. It's easy to make these lay for their "limited horizons" too ridiculous.
third Search the Varus battle also feel attracted many who have sunk their roots deep into mythology, mysticism, spiritualism ... and always new stories to the Externsteine , the dolmens, think the Germanic gods and heroes can tell. Since their imagination beyond all limits, these can easily be shrugged off as dreamers, if they comment on the Varus Battle.
4th The critics who would fear the visiting most, which are serious academics , out of the race ; the financial, emotional and familial as well as career-dependencies in the narrow academic community are so entangled that not a self-cleaning process in the scientific contest expected (longer). Although the (remaining) risk that the visiting still find evidence of varus in Kalkriese to neglect objective, for a scientist, but who had publicly attacked the Kalkriese cartel would the personal disaster.
5th Highly motivated opponents of the Kalkrieser "Lippe-Detmold" are. They are losing tourists, the right to the anniversary celebration at the end of 2009 and even still you Hermanns Monument. This Lipper arguments as economically motivated , unscientific and backwoods - just out of the Lippe Forest - dismiss , they also accused of petty parochialism and national narrow-mindedness, definitely Germano, as in the Empire and the Principality of Lippe-Detmold, is cheap. That the same arguments for the district of Osnabrück country or Hannovereaner apply, is back behind it.
6th Behind the cover of their Leaves, behind which it should always put a critical head hidden, leading to responsible editors, world and Handelsblatt in front, directing the public opinion management . Since she originally the visiting with the prospect of quick money and big fame to entice you to leave the set on Kalkriese - the media led the unsuspecting, but publicity-conscious Provincial archeologists like a dancing bear at the nose ring around - take them regularly and indiscriminately party. Critical reviews and letters to be suppressed: the stage is reserved for the visiting performer.
7th "Scribe", the dare to be noted that all sources are in stark contrast to Niewedder Valley and the local findings to be dismissed as text positivists. You have no criticism, because they stick far too good faith to the often distorted texts. You should only prove once an empirically more suitable habitat for the Varus Battle. However, the so-Checked the opposite question is not: " How, then, if not from old sources, the visiting even know of a Varus Battle ?
8th The Varus Battle in Lippi's forest to try to situate science contradicts the opinion formation process in a democracy. The Hermann Monument in the ring wall of the castle was Grote of the Bavarian subject of E. Bandel in the time of national movement started and continued under the Prussian king and German emperor and complete: National (ist) and imperial (ist) at the same time the monument is untenable. Has embraced the German public also so grateful she is for the historically unencumbered offer of a Varus battle in Kalkriese that is given her by a carrier of the Royal Order of Commander of the British Empire, citizens of democratic Urnation, .
For scientific questions one normally expects a scientific argument, but here it is obvious an exceptional issue that calls for a balanced socio-political and politically correct answer.
The Kalkrieser have ensured that the so-called public opinion as to decide "democratic", where the honest imperialists is to put a monument Varus. The museum (sgelände) Varus battle Kalkriese "is the socio-politically necessary counterweight to national (ist) Memorial Hermann the German Empire .
Sincerely,
Univ.-Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
Wednesday, January 3, 2007
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The misinterpretation Legion badge
Typical is the use of the representatives of Kalkriese-Varusschlacht hypothesis the four tanks found Close , by Franzius ( Georgia Franzius The Roman finds from Kalkriese, Brampton 1993) were first assigned the correct cavalry. On a clasp of a chain armor found on the underside of a hallmark, which Franzius for woman how to read " M. Aius I Fabrici " and "Legionnaire M. Aius in the first cohort in the centuries of translate Fabricius "was. This way it makes its own archaeological research result "four armored cavalry closing" for the closing itself into question, because these people purport to I. cohort to the foot soldiers hearing.
listen here now slowly on the fun: Because Varus perished in Kalkriese with the legions XVII, XVIII and XIX, but not the Legion I. Germanica Augusta , so there may not be true, what should not be true, had the Legion ID I, which had actually been - from a rider who was 16 AD to I. Legion of Germanicus - as a legionary cohort identifier to be read. For Varus had at the end no more cavalry, because they deserted! In fact, 16 AD Germanicus was among other things, the First Legion plus cavalry on Angrivarierwall in Kalkriese: a clear proof against the "Battle of Varus Kalkriese" hypothesis.
The
Kalkrieser are so caught up in their own world that they have to translate compulsively even clear falsification to verification of their hypothesis is And it also madness, yet he has method.
Not the cohort, but the Legion is the identifier and the pride of Roman soldiers. Archaeologists find Legion handles on bricks, on buildings, on bronze tablets ... but not the primary cohort identifiers. As with the V-shaped ditches of the Roman legions in Kalkriese, it has to serve for the Legion ID I an outlandish reinterpretation - without any precedent in archeology.
is probably these are the new methods of "Battlefield Archeology" of its inventor Rost Kalkriese. It is the giant limestone not only managed to persuade Frank Berger with his rather critical Münzbefunden, but also Georgia Franzius the desired interpretations - and keep them from unwanted results. We must not forget that the Legion identifiers refer to all of the coin hoards of Kalkriese exclusively to legions of Germanicus.
If now the managing director of the Museum Park Kalkriese all critics smugly replies that one can not but expect that Varus had deposited his card, he must of course right, because that was never in Kalkriese and at the time of the Battle of Kalkriese was seven years dead
The discovery of the tanks close one has inadvertently demonstrated the presence of a Roman cavalry unit, an Ala, which did in the army of Germanicus service or under Caecina - and BC already under Domitius Ahenobarbus . Because on the inside of a vaginal clamp sword, which has since been found in Kalkriese ( Georgia Franzius and Rainer Wiegand, a Gladiusscheide fittings and parts of a cingulum from Kalkriese, in: Germania, No. 1, 2000, p. 567 -607 ) can be a scribe with inscription " Domitii " of Domitius (Ahenobarbus) Decode although the co-author of Franzius contribution, Rainer Wiegand, rejects this (see Bökemeier Rolf, The Varus Battle, Tübingen 2000, p. 188 ).
Sincerely,
Univ.-Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
Typical is the use of the representatives of Kalkriese-Varusschlacht hypothesis the four tanks found Close , by Franzius ( Georgia Franzius The Roman finds from Kalkriese, Brampton 1993) were first assigned the correct cavalry. On a clasp of a chain armor found on the underside of a hallmark, which Franzius for woman how to read " M. Aius I Fabrici " and "Legionnaire M. Aius in the first cohort in the centuries of translate Fabricius "was. This way it makes its own archaeological research result "four armored cavalry closing" for the closing itself into question, because these people purport to I. cohort to the foot soldiers hearing.
listen here now slowly on the fun: Because Varus perished in Kalkriese with the legions XVII, XVIII and XIX, but not the Legion I. Germanica Augusta , so there may not be true, what should not be true, had the Legion ID I, which had actually been - from a rider who was 16 AD to I. Legion of Germanicus - as a legionary cohort identifier to be read. For Varus had at the end no more cavalry, because they deserted! In fact, 16 AD Germanicus was among other things, the First Legion plus cavalry on Angrivarierwall in Kalkriese: a clear proof against the "Battle of Varus Kalkriese" hypothesis.
The
Kalkrieser are so caught up in their own world that they have to translate compulsively even clear falsification to verification of their hypothesis is And it also madness, yet he has method.
Not the cohort, but the Legion is the identifier and the pride of Roman soldiers. Archaeologists find Legion handles on bricks, on buildings, on bronze tablets ... but not the primary cohort identifiers. As with the V-shaped ditches of the Roman legions in Kalkriese, it has to serve for the Legion ID I an outlandish reinterpretation - without any precedent in archeology.
is probably these are the new methods of "Battlefield Archeology" of its inventor Rost Kalkriese. It is the giant limestone not only managed to persuade Frank Berger with his rather critical Münzbefunden, but also Georgia Franzius the desired interpretations - and keep them from unwanted results. We must not forget that the Legion identifiers refer to all of the coin hoards of Kalkriese exclusively to legions of Germanicus.
If now the managing director of the Museum Park Kalkriese all critics smugly replies that one can not but expect that Varus had deposited his card, he must of course right, because that was never in Kalkriese and at the time of the Battle of Kalkriese was seven years dead
The discovery of the tanks close one has inadvertently demonstrated the presence of a Roman cavalry unit, an Ala, which did in the army of Germanicus service or under Caecina - and BC already under Domitius Ahenobarbus . Because on the inside of a vaginal clamp sword, which has since been found in Kalkriese ( Georgia Franzius and Rainer Wiegand, a Gladiusscheide fittings and parts of a cingulum from Kalkriese, in: Germania, No. 1, 2000, p. 567 -607 ) can be a scribe with inscription " Domitii " of Domitius (Ahenobarbus) Decode although the co-author of Franzius contribution, Rainer Wiegand, rejects this (see Bökemeier Rolf, The Varus Battle, Tübingen 2000, p. 188 ).
Sincerely,
Univ.-Prof. Dr. Siegfried G. Schoppe
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